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Post by Barry Channon on Feb 27, 2022 16:44:12 GMT
you are assuming the 340 are happy. I know for a fact that many are not, they just don't get involved in these discussions on this forum. Don't all moan when next season in the lower league that things don't improve. The mgt just can not motivate this team nor do the have the tactical clout to even put up a fight Maybe they are maybe they aren’t happy, once it was announced I know many said to keep and James himself they are glad he’s staying on. So either supportive or 2faced. How do you know the management don’t have they tactical clout or can motivate the team? Can you put fight into someone who doesn’t have it?? Does the team have enough men/winners like the team we had that got promoted by default? James,Matty o,burbs, for instance all had fight on the pitch and that’s their character I’ve been to every league game this season except Met Police away, yesterday was the worst performance all season ! Oh for Matty O in that back line what a player he was 👍 |
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Post by merleymagpie on Feb 27, 2022 16:52:44 GMT
Just to be clear wimborne fan I wasn't advocating sacking James appointing another manager and then sacking him.
I was saying there would be no need to appoint another manager and give him a longer term deal unless he was an outstanding candidate. The same way I think its beyond belief we have given James not only a longer term verbal agreement to stay in charge, but a long term binding contract. As for stability if the boards version of stability is relegation then I would rather be unstable thanks.
At this level of football it seems incredidulous to offer contracts to managers, more so for longer than a year and even more so when the only thing on their CV is relegation.
I get what you are saying about all of this being pointless, it is. But I questioned you just because it seems no matter what the results or condmsequences you think the manager should be backed and not questioned and seem to think lots of things should be made reasons for him to keep his job other than the one universal and accepted currently in football, results.
As I said no problem with your opinion even if I do find it strange. My issue is more with the board and what they are up to at this point.
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Post by wimbornefan on Feb 27, 2022 17:14:29 GMT
Just to be clear wimborne fan I wasn't advocating sacking James appointing another manager and then sacking him. I was saying there would be no need to appoint another manager and give him a longer term deal unless he was an outstanding candidate. The same way I think its beyond belief we have given James not only a longer term verbal agreement to stay in charge, but a long term binding contract. As for stability if the boards version of stability is relegation then I would rather be unstable thanks. At this level of football it seems incredidulous to offer contracts to managers, more so for longer than a year and even more so when the only thing on their CV is relegation. I get what you are saying about all of this being pointless, it is. But I questioned you just because it seems no matter what the results or condmsequences you think the manager should be backed and not questioned and seem to think lots of things should be made reasons for him to keep his job other than the one universal and accepted currently in football, results. As I said no problem with your opinion even if I do find it strange. My issue is more with the board and what they are up to at this point. Okay but you have stated that if his job was to keep us in the league and he can’t then sack him, if they did that in January and then someone else came in and they were told to keep them in the league then surely by that logic they would be sacked also? I’m guessing the board see that the off field stuff we as fans don’t see are not ready for this league and taking a step backward is a help to move forward. I said early in this threat that results havnt been good enough, but I’m with the board on the fact that stability 99% of the time brings in more success then chopping and Changing. Again I go back to the fact maybe the board feel the club need strengthening off the field, commercial/clubhouse/3G first for the team to go forward and if that means going backward to a league we only got out of because another club asked not to be in by the way, than maybe that’s their plan. |
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Post by wimbornefan on Feb 27, 2022 17:17:25 GMT
Maybe they are maybe they aren’t happy, once it was announced I know many said to keep and James himself they are glad he’s staying on. So either supportive or 2faced. How do you know the management don’t have they tactical clout or can motivate the team? Can you put fight into someone who doesn’t have it?? Does the team have enough men/winners like the team we had that got promoted by default? James,Matty o,burbs, for instance all had fight on the pitch and that’s their character I’ve been to every league game this season except Met Police away, yesterday was the worst performance all season ! Oh for Matty O in that back line what a player he was 👍 Matty o was a leader of men and we certainly don’t have that at the minute, didn’t we pay for his travel as well as wages when he was at uni in Leeds? I wonder if that would have been in the budget early this season?? |
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Post by Barry Channon on Feb 27, 2022 17:20:48 GMT
Just to be clear wimborne fan I wasn't advocating sacking James appointing another manager and then sacking him. I was saying there would be no need to appoint another manager and give him a longer term deal unless he was an outstanding candidate. The same way I think its beyond belief we have given James not only a longer term verbal agreement to stay in charge, but a long term binding contract. As for stability if the boards version of stability is relegation then I would rather be unstable thanks. At this level of football it seems incredidulous to offer contracts to managers, more so for longer than a year and even more so when the only thing on their CV is relegation. I get what you are saying about all of this being pointless, it is. But I questioned you just because it seems no matter what the results or condmsequences you think the manager should be backed and not questioned and seem to think lots of things should be made reasons for him to keep his job other than the one universal and accepted currently in football, results. As I said no problem with your opinion even if I do find it strange. My issue is more with the board and what they are up to at this point. Okay but you have stated that if his job was to keep us in the league and he can’t then sack him, if they did that in January and then someone else came in and they were told to keep them in the league then surely by that logic they would be sacked also? I’m guessing the board see that the off field stuff we as fans don’t see are not ready for this league and taking a step backward is a help to move forward. I said early in this threat that results havnt been good enough, but I’m with the board on the fact that stability 99% of the time brings in more success then chopping and Changing. Again I go back to the fact maybe the board feel the club need strengthening off the field, commercial/clubhouse/3G first for the team to go forward and if that means going backward to a league we only got out of because another club asked not to be in by the way, than maybe that’s their plan. The first team must be the priority in a football club surely ? |
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Post by wimbornefan on Feb 27, 2022 17:33:46 GMT
Okay but you have stated that if his job was to keep us in the league and he can’t then sack him, if they did that in January and then someone else came in and they were told to keep them in the league then surely by that logic they would be sacked also? I’m guessing the board see that the off field stuff we as fans don’t see are not ready for this league and taking a step backward is a help to move forward. I said early in this threat that results havnt been good enough, but I’m with the board on the fact that stability 99% of the time brings in more success then chopping and Changing. Again I go back to the fact maybe the board feel the club need strengthening off the field, commercial/clubhouse/3G first for the team to go forward and if that means going backward to a league we only got out of because another club asked not to be in by the way, than maybe that’s their plan. The first team must be the priority in a football club surely ? I would guess that in the summer and until the new board came in and understood everything that was going on around the club the old boards priority was the clubhouse and 3G and Acadamy from what I could see. |
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Post by Barry Channon on Feb 27, 2022 17:53:05 GMT
The first team must be the priority in a football club surely ? I would guess that in the summer and until the new board came in and understood everything that was going on around the club the old boards priority was the clubhouse and 3G and Acadamy from what I could see. if what your saying is correct then there’s the problem, as soon as the new board takes control the better. |
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Post by wimbornefan on Feb 27, 2022 18:02:37 GMT
I would guess that in the summer and until the new board came in and understood everything that was going on around the club the old boards priority was the clubhouse and 3G and Acadamy from what I could see. if what your saying is correct then there’s the problem, as soon as the new board takes control the better. I am only guessing but look at all the dad over the clubhouse when that opened and the start of the season, the expense of putting the 3G and having to repay the friendly debt on that, and I know you’ve asked questions of the Acadamy and how it’s run etc. |
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Post by Barry Channon on Feb 27, 2022 18:16:08 GMT
if what your saying is correct then there’s the problem, as soon as the new board takes control the better. I am only guessing but look at all the dad over the clubhouse when that opened and the start of the season, the expense of putting the 3G and having to repay the friendly debt on that, and I know you’ve asked questions of the Acadamy and how it’s run etc. the debate about the B-tec Academy is a debate for another day, the first team, the main pitch issues should be a priority over anything else at the club at the moment but on yesterday’s efforts it might all be for nothing unfortunately. |
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Post by wimbornefan on Feb 27, 2022 18:32:55 GMT
I am only guessing but look at all the dad over the clubhouse when that opened and the start of the season, the expense of putting the 3G and having to repay the friendly debt on that, and I know you’ve asked questions of the Acadamy and how it’s run etc. the debate about the B-tec Academy is a debate for another day, the first team, the main pitch issues should be a priority over anything else at the club at the moment but on yesterday’s efforts it might all be for nothing unfortunately. Agreed yesterday doesn’t sound good and with the other results I think we will unfortunately be in the south west league, but as we got up by default we should probably still be in that league anyway. We clearly need a squad overhaul and the biggest problem if the pitch as we went 14 days between games with the two home cancellations. |
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Post by jack on Feb 27, 2022 19:07:06 GMT
Wow what a day to be away and not look at the forum,
Yesterday’s result was awful and I think that has with dorch winning probably cost us relegation.
Is the manager the right person to try and get promotion, who knows until he’s given a chance with a better budget, but I’m glad the board are giving him a chance to prove people wrong
Is the squad needing a big change of players? Definitely.
If they can keep
Gerrard
Morg
Barts
Scorey
These are all starters in 90% of teams in this league
Connal
Curtis
Bealey
Jez
Louis
These in my opinion are squad players for rotation
Thoughts from others
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Post by minstermann on Feb 27, 2022 20:15:48 GMT
I think we all have to realise that wimbornefan delights in being rude and impolite bordering on the aggressive. Being confrontational doesnt help and when putting his views forward thinks he is always right. Its your opinion wimbornefan and you have to understandthat other people may disagree with you. Its very easy as a keyboard warrior to hide behind a pseudonym. it's then too easy to act in the way you do - and you have a responsibility to appreciate we are all on the same side really. People's passion shows through when we are in the position we are in as a football club. Very worthy if you can be reasonable and respectful about other people's views. Robert Mann
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Post by webster1 on Feb 27, 2022 20:34:44 GMT
I think we all have to realise that wimbornefan delights in being rude and impolite bordering on the aggressive. Being confrontational doesnt help and when putting his views forward thinks he is always right. Its your opinion wimbornefan and you have to understandthat other people may disagree with you. Its very easy as a keyboard warrior to hide behind a pseudonym. it's then too easy to act in the way you do - and you have a responsibility to appreciate we are all on the same side really. People's passion shows through when we are in the position we are in as a football club. Very worthy if you can be reasonable and respectful about other people's views. Robert Mann bit hypocritical. About hiding behind a false name. You are as i am. After all these games we should have seen some signs as to what our style and structure are. Unfortunately, alas, don't think we could motivate 12 yrs old let alone a first team. If we could then yesterday would have seen a better fight |
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Post by Barry Channon on Feb 27, 2022 21:18:33 GMT
I think we all have to realise that wimbornefan delights in being rude and impolite bordering on the aggressive. Being confrontational doesnt help and when putting his views forward thinks he is always right. Its your opinion wimbornefan and you have to understandthat other people may disagree with you. Its very easy as a keyboard warrior to hide behind a pseudonym. it's then too easy to act in the way you do - and you have a responsibility to appreciate we are all on the same side really. People's passion shows through when we are in the position we are in as a football club. Very worthy if you can be reasonable and respectful about other people's views. Robert Mann bit hypocritical. About hiding behind a false name. You are as i am. After all these games we should have seen some signs as to what our style and structure are. Unfortunately, alas, don't think we could motivate 12 yrs old let alone a first team. If we could then yesterday would have seen a better fight We still have 36 points to play for, I would really be happy to be proved wrong but let’s wait and see what happens ! |
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Post by minstermann on Feb 28, 2022 9:46:38 GMT
I think we all have to realise that wimbornefan delights in being rude and impolite bordering on the aggressive. Being confrontational doesnt help and when putting his views forward thinks he is always right. Its your opinion wimbornefan and you have to understandthat other people may disagree with you. Its very easy as a keyboard warrior to hide behind a pseudonym. it's then too easy to act in the way you do - and you have a responsibility to appreciate we are all on the same side really. People's passion shows through when we are in the position we are in as a football club. Very worthy if you can be reasonable and respectful about other people's views. Robert Mann bit hypocritical. About hiding behind a false name. You are as i am. After all these games we should have seen some signs as to what our style and structure are. Unfortunately, alas, don't think we could motivate 12 yrs old let alone a first team. If we could then yesterday would have seen a better fight I put my real name at the end of my comment. My surname is also in my 'handle' |
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