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Post by merleymagpie on Feb 27, 2022 11:36:44 GMT
I know why Danny left. But I remember him getting roundly critised for the teams performance. But anyway it doesn't matter has been already said loose every week and relegation the manager has at least another year and again this isn't a personal attack but whatever it circumstances this is poor and I just can't understand the any supporters or even the boards position that irrespective of results the manager is beyond scrutiny.
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Post by wimbornefan on Feb 27, 2022 11:45:43 GMT
I know why Danny left. But I remember him getting roundly critised for the teams performance. But anyway it doesn't matter has been already said loose every week and relegation the manager has at least another year and again this isn't a personal attack but whatever it circumstances this is poor and I just can't understand the any supporters or even the boards position that irrespective of results the manager is beyond scrutiny. I believe Danny’s performances was scrutinised because his team performance with players that were experienced so called at their peak age players and nearly double the budget the current management have worked with since they came in. This is the highest league the club has ever been in, with one of the smallest budgets from what we’re told what do people really expect?? Would you be happy to be sacked from your job having not been given the fair tools to do that job? Along side a pitch that’s not fit to play on every other week. And the injuries to the two lost experienced players in Keaton and struggs. Lucks just been against us since we moved to the new ground. |
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Post by thereisnoplanb on Feb 27, 2022 12:19:39 GMT
I can't see us holding our own in the next league down with the current players. We have already been beaten by such teams in cup games such as Hamworthy and Paulton. A change of Management would have been the answer but the club is now committed for another season to a couple of ex player legends and succumbed to sentiment. I wonder if the club ever tried to approach anybody else for the Managers job when it might have made a difference around Christmas time ?
Its all somewhat irrelevant now with the new contract the current management have. But most clubs in our situation tend to change their Manager - Look at what Eddie Howe has done at Newcastle without buying a new team.
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Post by wimbornefan on Feb 27, 2022 12:27:49 GMT
I can't see us holding our own in the next league down with the current players. We have already been beaten by such teams in cup games such as Hamworthy and Paulton. A change of Management would have been the answer but the club is now committed for another season to a couple of ex player legends and succumbed to sentiment. I wonder if the club ever tried to approach anybody else for the Managers job when it might have made a difference around Christmas time ? Its all somewhat irrelevant now with the new contract the current management have. But most clubs in our situation tend to change their Manager - Look at what Eddie Howe has done at Newcastle without buying a new team. Do you really think the management will keep this set of player if we go down, we lost to Paulton in a league cup game with a lot of the young lad playing and semilunar to Hamworthy in cups that are not relevant. You really are clueless at times. Again the Newcastle thing is irrelevant as they had millions to spend on anynplayer they wanted and working 5/6hoyrs a day with the players. |
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Post by thereisnoplanb on Feb 27, 2022 12:41:16 GMT
Hey wimbornefan. Are you always this aggressive and rude ? I know you like to upset people as you have done already on this forum. Tone it down a bit please. And anyway what's the Moon got to do with it [semilunar?]
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Post by Barry Channon on Feb 27, 2022 12:42:56 GMT
if you look at the team we had at the start of the season and the one we are watching now with the exception of Dan Bartlett which team was more exciting to watch ? I don’t think either team was more exciting to watch, I think we’re we we’re still the start of the seasons the players had hope they might be able to do something, as the season has gone on I think it’s now a massive confidence thing with the team. I think with a stronger budget at the start of the season we will have a more realistic chance of signing players that decided to go to other club this season I think the team we had at the beginning of the season were better than the team we have now, with the exception of Dan Bartlett. |
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Post by wimbornefan on Feb 27, 2022 12:46:25 GMT
Hey wimbornefan. Are you always this aggressive and rude ? I know you like to upset people as you have done already on this forum. Tone it down a bit please. And anyway what's the Moon got to do with it [semilunar?] I am when people start talking nonsense on here yes, you obviously don’t ask any board or people around the club for any information before coming on here |
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Post by wimbornefan on Feb 27, 2022 12:49:19 GMT
I don’t think either team was more exciting to watch, I think we’re we we’re still the start of the seasons the players had hope they might be able to do something, as the season has gone on I think it’s now a massive confidence thing with the team. I think with a stronger budget at the start of the season we will have a more realistic chance of signing players that decided to go to other club this season I think the team we had at the beginning of the season were better than the team we have now, with the exception of Dan Bartlett. I would disagree with this, I think the players at the start of the season had some hope they could do something, as the season went on and it showed they clearly weren’t up to the level and another defeat after another defeat has deflated the team and they are just resigned to loosing now. I think the best part of the season was after the new board me ever came in and we got some better quality players in for a month on loan from Weymouth, when we had Bartlett, xander, rose with struggs that gave us a foundations of a better team |
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Post by merleymagpie on Feb 27, 2022 13:11:18 GMT
I know why Danny left. But I remember him getting roundly critised for the teams performance. But anyway it doesn't matter has been already said loose every week and relegation the manager has at least another year and again this isn't a personal attack but whatever it circumstances this is poor and I just can't understand the any supporters or even the boards position that irrespective of results the manager is beyond scrutiny. I believe Danny’s performances was scrutinised because his team performance with players that were experienced so called at their peak age players and nearly double the budget the current management have worked with since they came in. This is the highest league the club has ever been in, with one of the smallest budgets from what we’re told what do people really expect?? Would you be happy to be sacked from your job having not been given the fair tools to do that job? Along side a pitch that’s not fit to play on every other week. And the injuries to the two lost experienced players in Keaton and struggs. Lucks just been against us since we moved to the new ground. I've answered and posed this question several times wimbornefan. If I am offered a job and the parameters of doing that job and the expectations of that job are made clear prior to commencement, then yes if I fail to do that job then I would expect quite rightly to be removed and would probably feel a bit embarrassd to be rewarded for my failure. I certainly don't have an issue with your relentless support of the management wimbornefan but what is surprising is the fact that you do not at any point accept that the manager is responsible for the results. You mention player mistakes, player sending offs, if the manager isn't responsible then I just dont know who is, and if the players are so bad and keep making mistakes, then surely it's up to manager to change them and if he cant for whatever reason then, again who's job is it to? Surely the point of a manager is to have someone responsible for first team results and performances. But I've said this a million times. Whatever the motivation of the board I have to say it seems Increasingly unlikely that the results of the first team are at the top of the their list. I have seen admittedly people on here at even at the games say that the manager should have the opportunity to try prevent relegation. I really do find that questionable, but I think everyone on here and at games aside from you and jack believe the new contract is beyond belief and almost questions what the actually objectives of the board are. |
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Post by wimbornefan on Feb 27, 2022 13:25:40 GMT
I believe Danny’s performances was scrutinised because his team performance with players that were experienced so called at their peak age players and nearly double the budget the current management have worked with since they came in. This is the highest league the club has ever been in, with one of the smallest budgets from what we’re told what do people really expect?? Would you be happy to be sacked from your job having not been given the fair tools to do that job? Along side a pitch that’s not fit to play on every other week. And the injuries to the two lost experienced players in Keaton and struggs. Lucks just been against us since we moved to the new ground. I've answered and posed this question several times wimbornefan. If I am offered a job and the parameters of doing that job and the expectations of that job are made clear prior to commencement, then yes if I fail to do that job then I would expect quite rightly to be removed and would probably feel a bit embarrassd to be rewarded for my failure. I certainly don't have an issue with your relentless support of the management wimbornefan but what is surprising is the fact that you do not at any point accept that the manager is responsible for the results. You mention player mistakes, player sending offs, if the manager isn't responsible then I just dont know who is, and if the players are so bad and keep making mistakes, then surely it's up to manager to change them and if he cant for whatever reason then, again who's job is it to? Surely the point of a manager is to have someone responsible for first team results and performances. But I've said this a million times. Whatever the motivation of the board I have to say it seems Increasingly unlikely that the results of the first team are at the top of the their list. I have seen admittedly people on here at even at the games say that the manager should have the opportunity to try prevent relegation. I really do find that questionable, but I think everyone on here and at games aside from you and jack believe the new contract is beyond belief and almost questions what the actually objectives of the board are. We can go back and forth all day with this, I’m in support of the clubs new board and management and you clearly are not, that’s fine and we’re both allowed our opinions. What I don’t get is wanted the management changed at Christmas, if another manager came in and didn’t keep them up with the increased budget and new voices in the changing room with them accepting to try and keep them up, do they then get the sack at the end of the season as well? And then if we go down and we want promotion and another new manager doesn’t achieve that we sack them to I guess? The board have decided they want in lee words stability, lee and the new board are the ones that make them calls not you or I, and I don’t want to upset you again but you either like it and get behind the team and management or you don’t. |
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Post by Barry Channon on Feb 27, 2022 13:49:11 GMT
I think the team we had at the beginning of the season were better than the team we have now, with the exception of Dan Bartlett. I would disagree with this, I think the players at the start of the season had some hope they could do something, as the season went on and it showed they clearly weren’t up to the level and another defeat after another defeat has deflated the team and they are just resigned to loosing now. I think the best part of the season was after the new board me ever came in and we got some better quality players in for a month on loan from Weymouth, when we had Bartlett, xander, rose with struggs that gave us a foundations of a better team how many more wins did we get with all these players you have listed ! How much money did it cost us to get these players in for very little return ? The Weymouth player were definitely a better quality but the club never really benefited from them playing for us ? |
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Post by wimbornefan on Feb 27, 2022 13:53:43 GMT
I would disagree with this, I think the players at the start of the season had some hope they could do something, as the season went on and it showed they clearly weren’t up to the level and another defeat after another defeat has deflated the team and they are just resigned to loosing now. I think the best part of the season was after the new board me ever came in and we got some better quality players in for a month on loan from Weymouth, when we had Bartlett, xander, rose with struggs that gave us a foundations of a better team how many more wins did we get with all these players you have listed ! How much money did it cost us to get these players in for very little return ? The Weymouth player were definitely a better quality but the club never really benefited from them playing for us ? They Botha scored in the draw at met police and went they both or at least 1 involved in the Gosport win at home, so 4 points out the 15 we’ve got in the 4 games they played I think that definitely improved the team and the points picked up with better quality players |
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Post by hoofitout on Feb 27, 2022 13:53:47 GMT
Agree with Barry on this. We are worse now than at the beginning of the season. This points to the recent additions since November not being of the quality or attitude needed. Couldnt go yesterday due to having Covid but I’m not surprised by the loss. I feel the new season will need a clean sweep including management.
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Post by wimbornefan on Feb 27, 2022 14:16:18 GMT
Agree with Barry on this. We are worse now than at the beginning of the season. This points to the recent additions since November not being of the quality or attitude needed. Couldnt go yesterday due to having Covid but I’m not surprised by the loss. I feel the new season will need a clean sweep including management. Another pointless comment on this forum as you know they have been given a new contract so no new management. Just new players |
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Post by Barry Channon on Feb 27, 2022 14:31:01 GMT
Agree with Barry on this. We are worse now than at the beginning of the season. This points to the recent additions since November not being of the quality or attitude needed. Couldnt go yesterday due to having Covid but I’m not surprised by the loss. I feel the new season will need a clean sweep including management. Another pointless comment on this forum as you know they have been given a new contract so no new management. Just new players when the old board members are no longer around who knows what might happen ! It’s all about different peoples opinions, which direction the club wants to go it’s not going to be easy getting back in this league next season. |
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