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Post by Admin on Jan 4, 2022 21:27:50 GMT
Magpies Starting X1 : Scott, Chugg, Morrison, Jamison, Toniaanen, Bosma, Young, Morgan, Bartlett, Beale, Kellaway
Subs Langdon, Henry, Mason, Bedford, McWilliams
Goal Sequence :- 0-1,1-1[Morgan],2-1[Young]2-2 [HT] 3-2[Morgan],3-3,3-4[92nd minute]
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Post by Admin on Jan 4, 2022 21:50:27 GMT
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Post by dorsetdave on Jan 5, 2022 12:12:59 GMT
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Post by magpiesgraham on Jan 5, 2022 12:27:36 GMT
And here's my version of the game: Attachment DeletedWayne should post it on the website this afternoon. |
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Post by dorsetdave on Jan 5, 2022 14:10:35 GMT
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Post by magpiesgraham on Jan 5, 2022 15:18:53 GMT
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Post by merleymagpie on Jan 5, 2022 18:52:28 GMT
Have to say a combination of last nights last minute defeat and watching the last post game interview, I am furious. We have heard literally every excuse from covid, to injuries to players being upset at an injury, but only one think remains consistent, we are bottom of the league and continue to loose games. We are now sleeping walking towards relegation. This isn't youth football or amateur football, people are being paid to do a job, indeed paid whilst others work tirelessly on a voluntarybasis behind the scenes and unless the job spec is guide towards relegation those employed are simply failing.
Maybe because we got promoted by default, maybe because we think we can throw money at it in the league below. But I actually almost think it's borderline negligent to continue as we are and accept relegation on the basis some people and I say some, feel the the manager hasn't been given a fair chance. I'm not sure how much more patience even he can believe he can be afforded. This isn't personal but I honestly can't fathom how the board cant see that a change is now absolutely essential.
We talk about being a progressive club and utilising our new home to our advantage, becoming prodimant club and concern in our area and this level, yet we are apparently willing to accept not mediocrity but continued failure in the most important department of the club. Even from a sponsorship perspective,or player recruitment what message does just plodding along towards relegation really convey?
Just really hacked off with the looming probability of regular trips to Larkhall and the likes to BMF. When we should be dreaming in the next several years of promotion to the NLS. Again James seems to be a good guy,but was given the job by default, hes been paid for his time and efforts and has had plenty of time now. lets not forget, irrespective of the so called dorset premier league budget, he had over half a year to prepare for this season lack of time or opportunity really isn't the issue here. I really do hope that the new board don't diminish the good impression and work done so far by allowing us to just drift back to division one.
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Post by jack on Jan 5, 2022 19:57:10 GMT
Have to say a combination of last nights last minute defeat and watching the last post game interview, I am furious. We have heard literally every excuse from covid, to injuries to players being upset at an injury, but only one think remains consistent, we are bottom of the league and continue to loose games. We are now sleeping walking towards relegation. This isn't youth football or amateur football, people are being paid to do a job, indeed paid whilst others work tirelessly on a voluntarybasis behind the scenes and unless the job spec is guide towards relegation those employed are simply failing. Maybe because we got promoted by default, maybe because we think we can throw money at it in the league below. But I actually almost think it's borderline negligent to continue as we are and accept relegation on the basis some people and I say some, feel the the manager hasn't been given a fair chance. I'm not sure how much more patience even he can believe he can be afforded. This isn't personal but I honestly can't fathom how the board cant see that a change is now absolutely essential. We talk about being a progressive club and utilising our new home to our advantage, becoming prodimant club and concern in our area and this level, yet we are apparently willing to accept not mediocrity but continued failure in the most important department of the club. Even from a sponsorship perspective,or player recruitment what message does just plodding along towards relegation really convey? Just really hacked off with the looming probability of regular trips to Larkhall and the likes to BMF. When we should be dreaming in the next several years of promotion to the NLS. Again James seems to be a good guy,but was given the job by default, hes been paid for his time and efforts and has had plenty of time now. lets not forget, irrespective of the so called dorset premier league budget, he had over half a year to prepare for this season lack of time or opportunity really isn't the issue here. I really do hope that the new board don't diminish the good impression and work done so far by allowing us to just drift back to division one. As a local ground hopper who watches many teams locally this post has made me laugh. Merleymagpie you sound like a disgruntled old man who has nothing better to do then moan (and is obviously one of the clubs non paid volunteers). How has Covid been a excuse? It is present and player do catch it genes not being avaliable, that is out of the managements control, Have they had serious injuries/long term injuries?Yes I believe they have What players have been upset??? And yes budget has been used but if your fighting with low money and someone offers more elsewhere what can you do? How was James given the job by default? The club sacked danny Holmes and offered it to him, how is that default? Default is how the club got promoted the last two times it has, once because a ground grading issue with Poole ground and then another by losing in the playoffs and a team folding allowing promotion to this league. The club should realistically be in the Wessex still anyway. The part about having half a season to get a team together is absolute c**p. You can’t sign players until June I believe unless it’s a contract, so technically they only had the same time as normal seasons to get paperwork done, your say well they had longer to speak to players etc, yes your right but until players actually sign forms they can change their minds 10times over for extra money else where. Why don’t you offer your services to the coaching staff and help the issues out on the pitch?? |
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Post by gemma on Jan 5, 2022 20:32:36 GMT
Have to say a combination of last nights last minute defeat and watching the last post game interview, I am furious. We have heard literally every excuse from covid, to injuries to players being upset at an injury, but only one think remains consistent, we are bottom of the league and continue to loose games. We are now sleeping walking towards relegation. This isn't youth football or amateur football, people are being paid to do a job, indeed paid whilst others work tirelessly on a voluntarybasis behind the scenes and unless the job spec is guide towards relegation those employed are simply failing. Maybe because we got promoted by default, maybe because we think we can throw money at it in the league below. But I actually almost think it's borderline negligent to continue as we are and accept relegation on the basis some people and I say some, feel the the manager hasn't been given a fair chance. I'm not sure how much more patience even he can believe he can be afforded. This isn't personal but I honestly can't fathom how the board cant see that a change is now absolutely essential. We talk about being a progressive club and utilising our new home to our advantage, becoming prodimant club and concern in our area and this level, yet we are apparently willing to accept not mediocrity but continued failure in the most important department of the club. Even from a sponsorship perspective,or player recruitment what message does just plodding along towards relegation really convey? Just really hacked off with the looming probability of regular trips to Larkhall and the likes to BMF. When we should be dreaming in the next several years of promotion to the NLS. Again James seems to be a good guy,but was given the job by default, hes been paid for his time and efforts and has had plenty of time now. lets not forget, irrespective of the so called dorset premier league budget, he had over half a year to prepare for this season lack of time or opportunity really isn't the issue here. I really do hope that the new board don't diminish the good impression and work done so far by allowing us to just drift back to division one. I must admit, I hesitated before replying to this because the last time I questioned the manager on here, I felt like I came under attack for expressing that opinion. What has become apparent to me since then however, is that the majority of people that I speak to at the games now share the same opinion. I agree with much of what has been said here. I’ve been saying for quite a few weeks that the team look disorganised, poorly coached and unmotivated and even with an increased budget, results have barely improved and the team make the same poor mistakes as they were weeks ago. When the family and I watch the interviews with James, we make exactly the same observation which is that they are full of excuses, drab and uninspiring We watched the interview after the Poole game and it was almost as if the excuses were already being made before the Truro game on the Tuesday! To be fair to James, he looks completely fed up which is totally understandable during a difficult season and not getting much rub of the green, however it worries me how this transpires to the players in the dressing room who so desperately need a lift. Again, it really is nothing personal at all and I think everyone agrees that James and Mark are extremely loyal clubmen who have always tried their best, but it’s simply not working out and if the new board are serious about trying to stay up then they really must make a change as it’s now almost too late to make up the points difference, we certainly won’t without a significant run of wins and I don’t have any faith that we can do that with the current set up. |
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Post by jack on Jan 5, 2022 20:48:06 GMT
Have to say a combination of last nights last minute defeat and watching the last post game interview, I am furious. We have heard literally every excuse from covid, to injuries to players being upset at an injury, but only one think remains consistent, we are bottom of the league and continue to loose games. We are now sleeping walking towards relegation. This isn't youth football or amateur football, people are being paid to do a job, indeed paid whilst others work tirelessly on a voluntarybasis behind the scenes and unless the job spec is guide towards relegation those employed are simply failing. Maybe because we got promoted by default, maybe because we think we can throw money at it in the league below. But I actually almost think it's borderline negligent to continue as we are and accept relegation on the basis some people and I say some, feel the the manager hasn't been given a fair chance. I'm not sure how much more patience even he can believe he can be afforded. This isn't personal but I honestly can't fathom how the board cant see that a change is now absolutely essential. We talk about being a progressive club and utilising our new home to our advantage, becoming prodimant club and concern in our area and this level, yet we are apparently willing to accept not mediocrity but continued failure in the most important department of the club. Even from a sponsorship perspective,or player recruitment what message does just plodding along towards relegation really convey? Just really hacked off with the looming probability of regular trips to Larkhall and the likes to BMF. When we should be dreaming in the next several years of promotion to the NLS. Again James seems to be a good guy,but was given the job by default, hes been paid for his time and efforts and has had plenty of time now. lets not forget, irrespective of the so called dorset premier league budget, he had over half a year to prepare for this season lack of time or opportunity really isn't the issue here. I really do hope that the new board don't diminish the good impression and work done so far by allowing us to just drift back to division one. I must admit, I hesitated before replying to this because the last time I questioned the manager on here, I felt like I came under attack for expressing that opinion. What has become apparent to me since then however, is that the majority of people that I speak to at the games now share the same opinion. I agree with much of what has been said here. I’ve been saying for quite a few weeks that the team look disorganised, poorly coached and unmotivated and even with an increased budget, results have barely improved and the team make the same poor mistakes as they were weeks ago. When the family and I watch the interviews with James, we make exactly the same observation which is that they are full of excuses, drab and uninspiring We watched the interview after the Poole game and it was almost as if the excuses were already being made before the Truro game on the Tuesday! To be fair to James, he looks completely fed up which is totally understandable during a difficult season and not getting much rub of the green, however it worries me how this transpires to the players in the dressing room who so desperately need a lift. Again, it really is nothing personal at all and I think everyone agrees that James and Mark are extremely loyal clubmen who have always tried their best, but it’s simply not working out and if the new board are serious about trying to stay up then they really must make a change as its now almost too late to make up the points difference, we certainly won’t without a significant run of wins and I don’t have any faith that we can do that with the current set up. Where the team disorganised when they beat Gosport? We’re they disorganised last night when they played much better than t very good truro side, what part of the game is uncoached in your views? What excuses were used after the poole game for yesterday, Also you say James interviews are drab and uninspiring after a loss, would you rather he laughing and joking??? With the increased budget, how many players have we actually managed to sing during the season with the increased budget, 2/3 players isn’t going to make that much difference there are a lot of players that are not good enough and I’m sorry to disappoint you but that’s down to the original budget. |
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Post by gemma on Jan 5, 2022 21:03:21 GMT
I must admit, I hesitated before replying to this because the last time I questioned the manager on here, I felt like I came under attack for expressing that opinion. What has become apparent to me since then however, is that the majority of people that I speak to at the games now share the same opinion. I agree with much of what has been said here. I’ve been saying for quite a few weeks that the team look disorganised, poorly coached and unmotivated and even with an increased budget, results have barely improved and the team make the same poor mistakes as they were weeks ago. When the family and I watch the interviews with James, we make exactly the same observation which is that they are full of excuses, drab and uninspiring We watched the interview after the Poole game and it was almost as if the excuses were already being made before the Truro game on the Tuesday! To be fair to James, he looks completely fed up which is totally understandable during a difficult season and not getting much rub of the green, however it worries me how this transpires to the players in the dressing room who so desperately need a lift. Again, it really is nothing personal at all and I think everyone agrees that James and Mark are extremely loyal clubmen who have always tried their best, but it’s simply not working out and if the new board are serious about trying to stay up then they really must make a change as its now almost too late to make up the points difference, we certainly won’t without a significant run of wins and I don’t have any faith that we can do that with the current set up. Where the team disorganised when they beat Gosport? We’re they disorganised last night when they played much better than t very good truro side, what part of the game is uncoached in your views? What excuses were used after the poole game for yesterday, Also you say James interviews are drab and uninspiring after a loss, would you rather he laughing and joking??? With the increased budget, how many players have we actually managed to sing during the season with the increased budget, 2/3 players isn’t going to make that much difference there are a lot of players that are not good enough and I’m sorry to disappoint you but that’s down to the original budget. Hi Jack, People responded to me in the first half of the season by pointing out that we’d beaten Salisbury and now you are using the Gosport game, the point is that these are the ONLY 2 games we have won out of the 22 that we have played! Since the takeover and increased budget we have played 6, won 1 against 10 men, drawn 1 and lost 4 in the league and also been knocked out of the FA trophy by a team in the league below. It’s not a couple of players that have come in either to be fair, Jack Torniainen, Xande McBurnie, Akheem Rose, Dan Bartlett, Bouwe Bosma and last night Tommy Scott. Louis Kellaway and Jez Bedford also signed very shortly before the takeover and I wouldn’t be surprised if that was from the extra funding. Team disorganised, James says himself in his interview that the team will now be practising defending set pieces until they are bored of it, this has been a problem since game 1 and we are now approaching game 23. |
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Post by jack on Jan 5, 2022 21:07:57 GMT
Where the team disorganised when they beat Gosport? We’re they disorganised last night when they played much better than t very good truro side, what part of the game is uncoached in your views? What excuses were used after the poole game for yesterday, Also you say James interviews are drab and uninspiring after a loss, would you rather he laughing and joking??? With the increased budget, how many players have we actually managed to sing during the season with the increased budget, 2/3 players isn’t going to make that much difference there are a lot of players that are not good enough and I’m sorry to disappoint you but that’s down to the original budget. Hi Jack, People responded to me in the first half of the season by pointing out that we’d beaten Salisbury and now you are using the Gosport game, the point is that these are the ONLY 2 games we have won out of the 22 that we have played! Since the takeover and increased budget we have played 6, won 1 against 10 men, drawn 1 and lost 4 in the league and also been knocked out of the FA trophy by a team in the league below. It’s not a couple of players that have come in either to be fair, Jack Torniainen, Xande McBurnie, Akheem Rose, Dan Bartlett, Bouwe Bosma and last night Tommy Scott. Louis Kellaway and Jez Bedford also signed very shortly before the takeover and I wouldn’t be surprised if that was from the extra funding. Team disorganised, James says himself in his interview that the team will now be practising defending set pieces until they are bored of it, this has been a problem since game 1 and we are now approaching game 23. Hi Gemma, Thanks for the info on the players coming in, weren’t mcburnie and rose on loan for only a few games? We’re they able to train with the team do you know as most full time clubs don’t let players train from what I know? How long have the others been at the club have they been in long enough to get used to everyone and the managers game plan? Regarding the training on set pieces, I appreciate its half way through the season now but surly all the players have to do is head the ball? |
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Post by merleymagpie on Jan 5, 2022 21:38:23 GMT
Have to say a combination of last nights last minute defeat and watching the last post game interview, I am furious. We have heard literally every excuse from covid, to injuries to players being upset at an injury, but only one think remains consistent, we are bottom of the league and continue to loose games. We are now sleeping walking towards relegation. This isn't youth football or amateur football, people are being paid to do a job, indeed paid whilst others work tirelessly on a voluntarybasis behind the scenes and unless the job spec is guide towards relegation those employed are simply failing. Maybe because we got promoted by default, maybe because we think we can throw money at it in the league below. But I actually almost think it's borderline negligent to continue as we are and accept relegation on the basis some people and I say some, feel the the manager hasn't been given a fair chance. I'm not sure how much more patience even he can believe he can be afforded. This isn't personal but I honestly can't fathom how the board cant see that a change is now absolutely essential. We talk about being a progressive club and utilising our new home to our advantage, becoming prodimant club and concern in our area and this level, yet we are apparently willing to accept not mediocrity but continued failure in the most important department of the club. Even from a sponsorship perspective,or player recruitment what message does just plodding along towards relegation really convey? Just really hacked off with the looming probability of regular trips to Larkhall and the likes to BMF. When we should be dreaming in the next several years of promotion to the NLS. Again James seems to be a good guy,but was given the job by default, hes been paid for his time and efforts and has had plenty of time now. lets not forget, irrespective of the so called dorset premier league budget, he had over half a year to prepare for this season lack of time or opportunity really isn't the issue here. I really do hope that the new board don't diminish the good impression and work done so far by allowing us to just drift back to division one. As a local ground hopper who watches many teams locally this post has made me laugh. Merleymagpie you sound like a disgruntled old man who has nothing better to do then moan (and is obviously one of the clubs non paid volunteers). How has Covid been a excuse? It is present and player do catch it genes not being avaliable, that is out of the managements control, Have they had serious injuries/long term injuries?Yes I believe they have What players have been upset??? And yes budget has been used but if your fighting with low money and someone offers more elsewhere what can you do? How was James given the job by default? The club sacked danny Holmes and offered it to him, how is that default? Default is how the club got promoted the last two times it has, once because a ground grading issue with Poole ground and then another by losing in the playoffs and a team folding allowing promotion to this league. The club should realistically be in the Wessex still anyway. The part about having half a season to get a team together is absolute c**p. You can’t sign players until June I believe unless it’s a contract, so technically they only had the same time as normal seasons to get paperwork done, your say well they had longer to speak to players etc, yes your right but until players actually sign forms they can change their minds 10times over for extra money else where. Why don’t you offer your services to the coaching staff and help the issues out on the pitch?? Jack,not sure there is any need for the confrontational nature of your post or the name calling. Its an opinion and a expression of feeling which as a supporter however old and disgruntled I am, I belive I am allowed to express. To clarify some points. I am not saying injuries, covid or unavailability sending offs are not worthy of consideration. However everyone in the league is dealing with the same circumstances so I am not sure why we should be week after week using them as mitigation for where we are. I think its fair to say the manager is responsible for results, whatever happens that prevents you getting results beyond force majeur is ultimately thr managers problem and hes paid to deal with it. players injured? find players, utilise youth team review how players train and look after themselves. Players with covid? As a above. Players keep getting sent off? Instill discipline and maybe an environment of accountability. If he cant then he is unable to in my opinion to do his job. The same applies to all management positions in all other walks of life. Regarding players being upset, I was referring to the very sad Indictment that was revealed vs Poole, that some players didn't want to play after the injury to Poole. Again this has to fall under the managers jurisdiction. Local Derby when you are bottom of the league and players don't want to go on the pitch after some witnessed a albeit severe injury?!?! Alarming. Regarding budget and negotiations, unfortunately players will go where they want to go having a bigger budget now, merely enhances our possibilities. I'm aware it doesn't assure every player will want to come...but who's responsibility is it to sign players? However it's done its down to manager to attract players or develop players that are fit for purpose. This is semi professional football it isn't fair it isn't an even playing field, but we can't just resign ourselves to the fact the manager can only try to improve the squad its his job to make the squad better by coaching, promoting from youth teams or signings. Again if he cant where does the fault lie? Regarding the covid break last season, I'm aware players can only sign when the league allows but of you are telling me that there couldn't have been better use of the time than there was then I have to disagree. All that time to organise, prepare identify and yet we get the assistant manager admirably saying its all down to budget. Again this sounds like it's an attack its not. It maybe grim and negative but that's only because out situation is. James may well turn out to be a great manager however currently this is isn't working and I think we are now beyond the point where we can wait In hope that he can turn it around. I ask you Jack or anyone else. Do you honestly believe that there is not anyone else that could do better job than what is currently being done?? And If we get relegated does anyone really believe with any confidence that the manager post relegation will bring us back up? I do agree with Gemma he actually seems fed up himself, and if that's his public facing body language one can imagine his demeanor in the dressing room and training ground isn't going to instill belief. But who cares what I think, im just a disgruntled old man with nothing better to do than moan because clearly Jack everything is going well. |
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Post by jack on Jan 5, 2022 21:55:23 GMT
As a local ground hopper who watches many teams locally this post has made me laugh. Merleymagpie you sound like a disgruntled old man who has nothing better to do then moan (and is obviously one of the clubs non paid volunteers). How has Covid been a excuse? It is present and player do catch it genes not being avaliable, that is out of the managements control, Have they had serious injuries/long term injuries?Yes I believe they have What players have been upset??? And yes budget has been used but if your fighting with low money and someone offers more elsewhere what can you do? How was James given the job by default? The club sacked danny Holmes and offered it to him, how is that default? Default is how the club got promoted the last two times it has, once because a ground grading issue with Poole ground and then another by losing in the playoffs and a team folding allowing promotion to this league. The club should realistically be in the Wessex still anyway. The part about having half a season to get a team together is absolute c**p. You can’t sign players until June I believe unless it’s a contract, so technically they only had the same time as normal seasons to get paperwork done, your say well they had longer to speak to players etc, yes your right but until players actually sign forms they can change their minds 10times over for extra money else where. Why don’t you offer your services to the coaching staff and help the issues out on the pitch?? Jack,not sure there is any need for the confrontational nature of your post or the name calling. Its an opinion and a expression of feeling which as a supporter however old and disgruntled I am, I belive I am allowed to express. To clarify some points. I am not saying injuries, covid or unavailability sending offs are not worthy of consideration. However everyone in the league is dealing with the same circumstances so I am not sure why we should be week after week using them as mitigation for where we are. I think its fair to say the manager is responsible for results, whatever happens that prevents you getting results beyond force majeur is ultimately thr managers problem and hes paid to deal with it. players injured? find players, utilise youth team review how players train and look after themselves. Players with covid? As a above. Players keep getting sent off? Instill discipline and maybe an environment of accountability. If he cant then he is unable to in my opinion to do his job. The same applies to all management positions in all other walks of life. Regarding players being upset, I was referring to the very sad Indictment that was revealed vs Poole, that some players didn't want to play after the injury to Poole. Again this has to fall under the managers jurisdiction. Local Derby when you are bottom of the league and players don't want to go on the pitch after some witnessed a albeit severe injury?!?! Alarming. Regarding budget and negotiations, unfortunately players will go where they want to go having a bigger budget now, merely enhances our possibilities. I'm aware it doesn't assure every player will want to come...but who's responsibility is it to sign players? However it's done its down to manager to attract players or develop players that are fit for purpose. This is semi professional football it isn't fair it isn't an even playing field, but we can't just resign ourselves to the fact the manager can only try to improve the squad its his job to make the squad better by coaching, promoting from youth teams or signings. Again if he cant where does the fault lie? Regarding the covid break last season, I'm aware players can only sign when the league allows but of you are telling me that there couldn't have been better use of the time than there was then I have to disagree. All that time to organise, prepare identify and yet we get the assistant manager admirably saying its all down to budget. Again this sounds like it's an attack its not. It maybe grim and negative but that's only because out situation is. James may well turn out to be a great manager however currently this is isn't working and I think we are now beyond the point where we can wait In hope that he can turn it around. I ask you Jack or anyone else. Do you honestly believe that there is not anyone else that could do better job than what is currently being done?? And If we get relegated does anyone really believe with any confidence that the manager post relegation will bring us back up? I do agree with Gemma he actually seems fed up himself, and if that's his public facing body language one can imagine his demeanor in the dressing room and training ground isn't going to instill belief. But who cares what I think, im just a disgruntled old man with nothing better to do than moan because clearly Jack everything is going well. I’m not name calling or having a go, and this is why we love football it’s all about opinions and we I’ll always agree and disagree, Do you know what James was doing in the off season? Do you know if he was talking to players or sitting on a sunbed? Ultimately the same as you mentioned in work life if someone’s offered more money elsewhere they will go there, Luke Holmes, tony lee, Luke burbridge, Sam bayston many other players have all left your club because they could get better money elsewhere. I for one think that when I’ve watched games especially the last 6 weeks the football Wimborne have played has been some very good and exciting football, yes they struggle badly against set piece, but I think the player can’t wouldn’t play that way and work as hard as they did in the Gosport and last nights game so to say the manger looking dejected and that leaking into the changing room training pitch is it the case in my opinion Using the young players has been tried and failed, they simply do not look up to the level required, as for finding players mid season good enough that is also proves difficult, most would be happy settled I’m not saying things are going well for you, obviously nobody wants to be bottom of the league, but you guys say things like the team is disorganised and they make the same errors but then don’t back it up with what you think is disorganised or what same errors. This is a forum for fans to discuss and for those who can’t attend games to find out others thoughts |
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Post by tbtv on Jan 6, 2022 0:46:50 GMT
Here are the match highlights - get them while you can. youtu.be/cHgICyGZgfg[Thread continued on Page 2] |
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