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Post by leemerrifield on Mar 11, 2022 8:46:56 GMT
Nobody said it would be easy when the new board was formed ..and so its proved.
Technically there are still plenty of points to play for and so we will keep battling on until its mathematically certain, but if I'm honest the last gasp defeat at Truro and the humbling by Yate on Tuesday have probably sealed our fate.
The week has ended on a positive note though with the signing of John White from Southend - the type of experienced player James has been seeking for weeks - and whilst he can't single handedly keep us up (especially at this late stage) his signing is still a real coup for the club and hopefully provides the dressing room with a much needed boost. Securing Harry Morgan for next season is also a key signing as I think we can all agree he's been our best player this season.
The re-signing of Harry also shows we're already thinking ahead to next season and there may well be further changes over the remaining weeks of the season as James begins to look ahead to 2022-23.
A lot has been said on the Forum about whose to blame for our league position - the old board, the manager, even the new board - and in most cases there are some well thought out and passionate arguments that I fully understand even if I don't agree with them but the fact there is such a wide divergence of opinions shows there are no easy answers. Sacking the manager is usually the easiest / quickest solution but it doesn't usually address wider, more deep-seated issues. For some changing managers brings a change in fortunes - Eddie Howe at Newcastle springs to mind - but for others such as Weymouth, sacking their manager has made no difference to their on-field results.
Personally I think the root cause is that we don't quite have the infrastructure or financial muscle to compete consistently at this level yet despite having a fantastic new facility but we are working hard to improve that. I don't think saying that is defeatist or settling for second best nor does it mean we don't want to be at this level or are happy to be relegated - far from it, it's just my sense of where we currently are as a club based on the kind of money some clubs are prepared to spend.
It's been a really tough season and bouncing back any time soon won't be easy - we all know how tough the league below is - but the board will work hard in the summer with James to give him the best chance possible with both financial and non-financial support and the re-signing of Harry is the first step in that process.
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Post by webster on Mar 11, 2022 15:31:40 GMT
Nobody said it would be easy when the new board was formed ..and so its proved. Technically there are still plenty of points to play for and so we will keep battling on until its mathematically certain, but if I'm honest the last gasp defeat at Truro and the humbling by Yate on Tuesday have probably sealed our fate. The week has ended on a positive note though with the signing of John White from Southend - the type of experienced player James has been seeking for weeks - and whilst he can't single handedly keep us up (especially at this late stage) his signing is still a real coup for the club and hopefully provides the dressing room with a much needed boost. Securing Harry Morgan for next season is also a key signing as I think we can all agree he's been our best player this season. The re-signing of Harry also shows we're already thinking ahead to next season and there may well be further changes over the remaining weeks of the season as James begins to look ahead to 2022-23. A lot has been said on the Forum about whose to blame for our league position - the old board, the manager, even the new board - and in most cases there are some well thought out and passionate arguments that I fully understand even if I don't agree with them but the fact there is such a wide divergence of opinions shows there are no easy answers. Sacking the manager is usually the easiest / quickest solution but it doesn't usually address wider, more deep-seated issues. For some changing managers brings a change in fortunes - Eddie Howe at Newcastle springs to mind - but for others such as Weymouth, sacking their manager has made no difference to their on-field results. Personally I think the root cause is that we don't quite have the infrastructure or financial muscle to compete consistently at this level yet despite having a fantastic new facility but we are working hard to improve that. I don't think saying that is defeatist or settling for second best nor does it mean we don't want to be at this level or are happy to be relegated - far from it, it's just my sense of where we currently are as a club based on the kind of money some clubs are prepared to spend. It's been a really tough season and bouncing back any time soon won't be easy - we all know how tough the league below is - but the board will work hard in the summer with James to give him the best chance possible with both financial and non-financial support and the re-signing of Harry is the first step in that process. that is an honest and fair summary. Thank you |
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Post by Barry Channon on Mar 11, 2022 17:09:50 GMT
Nobody said it would be easy when the new board was formed ..and so its proved. Technically there are still plenty of points to play for and so we will keep battling on until its mathematically certain, but if I'm honest the last gasp defeat at Truro and the humbling by Yate on Tuesday have probably sealed our fate. The week has ended on a positive note though with the signing of John White from Southend - the type of experienced player James has been seeking for weeks - and whilst he can't single handedly keep us up (especially at this late stage) his signing is still a real coup for the club and hopefully provides the dressing room with a much needed boost. Securing Harry Morgan for next season is also a key signing as I think we can all agree he's been our best player this season. The re-signing of Harry also shows we're already thinking ahead to next season and there may well be further changes over the remaining weeks of the season as James begins to look ahead to 2022-23. A lot has been said on the Forum about whose to blame for our league position - the old board, the manager, even the new board - and in most cases there are some well thought out and passionate arguments that I fully understand even if I don't agree with them but the fact there is such a wide divergence of opinions shows there are no easy answers. Sacking the manager is usually the easiest / quickest solution but it doesn't usually address wider, more deep-seated issues. For some changing managers brings a change in fortunes - Eddie Howe at Newcastle springs to mind - but for others such as Weymouth, sacking their manager has made no difference to their on-field results. Personally I think the root cause is that we don't quite have the infrastructure or financial muscle to compete consistently at this level yet despite having a fantastic new facility but we are working hard to improve that. I don't think saying that is defeatist or settling for second best nor does it mean we don't want to be at this level or are happy to be relegated - far from it, it's just my sense of where we currently are as a club based on the kind of money some clubs are prepared to spend. It's been a really tough season and bouncing back any time soon won't be easy - we all know how tough the league below is - but the board will work hard in the summer with James to give him the best chance possible with both financial and non-financial support and the re-signing of Harry is the first step in that process. very honest as always Lee, |
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Post by merleymagpie on Mar 11, 2022 20:11:43 GMT
This is good albeit slim insight into the thinking that has driven the boards decisions.
Interesting that the conclusion is the club aside from the ground isn't of required standard that we are currently are positioned at.
One question from this I feel needs be answered is that maybe in some opinions changing the manager is the easy option, it clearly isn't here, but if we are in a transitional period and trying establish ourselves both on and off the field what was the thought process that not led to not only keeping the manager but then awarding him a new contract in lieu?
It seems a strange business decision that if we can't yet compete financially amongst the majority of the clubs around, that we would then to sign any manager to long term contract let alone one who has produced 15 points all season and the financial responsibility that comes with it. Furthermore if we are In the process of establishing ourselves financially and can't throw money at the situation then surely the base requirement of the manager would to be able to make the best of what we have and least develop and organise players Which seems the thing most lacking currently.
However I do give the utmost credit in regard to the improvements in all aspects off the pitch since the change. Up The Magpies
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Post by wimbornefan on Mar 12, 2022 9:13:06 GMT
This is good albeit slim insight into the thinking that has driven the boards decisions. Interesting that the conclusion is the club aside from the ground isn't of required standard that we are currently are positioned at. One question from this I feel needs be answered is that maybe in some opinions changing the manager is the easy option, it clearly isn't here, but if we are in a transitional period and trying establish ourselves both on and off the field what was the thought process that not led to not only keeping the manager but then awarding him a new contract in lieu? It seems a strange business decision that if we can't yet compete financially amongst the majority of the clubs around, that we would then to sign any manager to long term contract let alone one who has produced 15 points all season and the financial responsibility that comes with it. Furthermore if we are In the process of establishing ourselves financially and can't throw money at the situation then surely the base requirement of the manager would to be able to make the best of what we have and least develop and organise players Which seems the thing most lacking currently. However I do give the utmost credit in regard to the improvements in all aspects off the pitch since the change. Up The Magpies Thanks lee this is very informative in my opinion, Merely, why is this a slim insight, the club are not ready to compete financially at this level with majority of the clubs, what more info do you want/need as to why the club is in the position it is? As for the manager again any info from the club or regardless of result you say he’s got to go, the club have backed him, they have given the reason why as they want stability and you still keep asking. Yes results have been poor but as lee has stated we don’t have the finances, therefore we’re playing Wessex league players in the southern prem so logic says we will lose most games, as for developing players, Harry Morgan has come into the team and been developed into a fantastic player for the club, as has Lewis Beale all be it very low on confidence at the moment so that’s shows the management can do that also. Maybe they keep the manager because they now he has the influence with the right backing to get players in and again after the season we had who though Harry would re-sign obviously he wants to play for James and the club. |
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Post by sid76 on Mar 12, 2022 16:40:41 GMT
Nobody said it would be easy when the new board was formed ..and so its proved. Technically there are still plenty of points to play for and so we will keep battling on until its mathematically certain, but if I'm honest the last gasp defeat at Truro and the humbling by Yate on Tuesday have probably sealed our fate. The week has ended on a positive note though with the signing of John White from Southend - the type of experienced player James has been seeking for weeks - and whilst he can't single handedly keep us up (especially at this late stage) his signing is still a real coup for the club and hopefully provides the dressing room with a much needed boost. Securing Harry Morgan for next season is also a key signing as I think we can all agree he's been our best player this season. The re-signing of Harry also shows we're already thinking ahead to next season and there may well be further changes over the remaining weeks of the season as James begins to look ahead to 2022-23. A lot has been said on the Forum about whose to blame for our league position - the old board, the manager, even the new board - and in most cases there are some well thought out and passionate arguments that I fully understand even if I don't agree with them but the fact there is such a wide divergence of opinions shows there are no easy answers. Sacking the manager is usually the easiest / quickest solution but it doesn't usually address wider, more deep-seated issues. For some changing managers brings a change in fortunes - Eddie Howe at Newcastle springs to mind - but for others such as Weymouth, sacking their manager has made no difference to their on-field results. Personally I think the root cause is that we don't quite have the infrastructure or financial muscle to compete consistently at this level yet despite having a fantastic new facility but we are working hard to improve that. I don't think saying that is defeatist or settling for second best nor does it mean we don't want to be at this level or are happy to be relegated - far from it, it's just my sense of where we currently are as a club based on the kind of money some clubs are prepared to spend. It's been a really tough season and bouncing back any time soon won't be easy - we all know how tough the league below is - but the board will work hard in the summer with James to give him the best chance possible with both financial and non-financial support and the re-signing of Harry is the first step in that process. that is an honest and fair summary. Thank you |
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Post by bezza on Mar 12, 2022 20:31:55 GMT
An honest post and it's refreshing to read such a candid assessment from one of our board, one of the things I like about non league. I think it's clear we are a small fish in a big pond but not being close to the club finances I do struggle to understand what changed in 2021 in terms of budget. Did we over extend ourselves to be competitive between 2018 and 2020 or did the ground move leave us short of cash? We get 300-400 at home on average so why can't we compete with met police and other lower supported clubs? It's also true that under James last season we beat Farnborough in the league and Maidstone in the cup so he can clearly put out winning teams. Perhaps our level is southern league division one, but if Hamworthy can get up to that league on their small crowds (which is likely based on their current position) I do wonder if we should be doing better!
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