fedup
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Post by fedup on Mar 9, 2022 14:29:00 GMT
Last night it was embarrassing be be a Wimborne fan.
I have never seen a team play without any fight,guts,spirit and self pride.
Apart from Aaron from AFCB loanee we looked lost of ideas.
Some had trouble in doing the basics. Tackle,compete or control the ball.
They dont ever seem to learn from thier mistakes, which I can except at this level but you must learn quickly.
The bigger danger is I cannot see it changing as some just don't seem to care just collect thier wages and go, they don't even put money behind the bar either.
Do they ever watch games back as a group and shown the mistakes and make players accountable for thier actions?
Next season will follow the same path unless changes are made that includes players attitudes to working much harder for each other, be a team NOT individuals
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Post by wimbornefan on Mar 9, 2022 15:18:00 GMT
We all know I’m in agreement with the new board members for sticking with James and mark and that’s my opinion, others of you with think differently and that’s also fine.
My question would be, why do the majority of people think we are a step 3 club, we got promoted via default, we survived on the last day of the season being beaten 3 times by basingstoke who got relegated, we’ve been told that financially couldn’t compete at the start of the season, the new bod have come in but can they/will they pay what other clubs can pay to get players for this level?
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Post by minstermann on Mar 9, 2022 15:25:40 GMT
We are fast becoming an embarrasment within the local football scene. It was men against boys. It was Sunday league defending. We were clueless. It was underachieving at the highest level. It was exasperating. It was....It was..... It was .....I have no more words !
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Post by yogi on Mar 9, 2022 15:30:11 GMT
We all know I’m in agreement with the new board members for sticking with James and mark and that’s my opinion, others of you with think differently and that’s also fine. My question would be, why do the majority of people think we are a step 3 club, we got promoted via default, we survived on the last day of the season being beaten 3 times by basingstoke who got relegated, we’ve been told that financially couldn’t compete at the start of the season, the new bod have come in but can they/will they pay what other clubs can pay to get players for this level?
We don’t think we are a step 3 club; we are a step 3 club and therefore we must operate as a step 3 club. We got promoted via default.
It doesn’t matter how we got promoted, the fact remains that we did, the BoD were offered the chance of promotion and decided to accept it, they could have easily declined the offer. We survived on the last day of the season being beaten 3 times by Basingstoke who got relegated.
This was in our first season at step 3 and has no bearing on our current situation. Look at how well Basingstoke are performing now. We’ve been told that we financially couldn’t compete at the start of the season.
Why couldn’t we compete financially at the beginning of the season? we had two aborted seasons to get our house in order. The new BoD have come in but can they/will they pay what other clubs can pay to get players for this level?
They have said that a competitive budget will be available, we can only wait and see. |
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Post by mowerman on Mar 9, 2022 16:08:07 GMT
Don’t you think James and Gambo can see the issues… Current players must know their REAL commitment… and yes the season and in particular last nights lack of real performance by many players is not what the fans want, not the BOD, not the Managers…. Injuries… well you couldn’t make up how unfortunate we’ve been… You have to give the Managers a chance… yes it looks most likely we’ll go down at the end of the season. And yes… some of the players may leave.. but then it will surely be James and Gambos team… providing funds permit, as promised. Then you can start to evaluate their skills and ability to manage WTFC. But ‘throwing the baby out with the bath water’ is not the answer.
I’ll certainly be buying my season ticket for next season and supporting James and Gambo in whatever league status we’re in.
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Post by magpiesgraham on Mar 9, 2022 16:10:52 GMT
Here's my report of last night's game: Attachment DeletedIt should be posted on the club's website soon. There wasn't a post-match chat with James. |
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Post by merleymagpie on Mar 9, 2022 16:17:27 GMT
Wimbornfan does your question have any association to the performance of manager? Because what ever level you are at its comparative and then results and performance warrant scrutiny whatever the stature of the club.
As for what level the club is at, I guess that question forms 3 aspects, facilities, finance, and ambition
We have a new ground which meets the ground criteria for our level and are generating revenue weekly outside of the 1st team so I guess that ticks the box of facilities.
The board have said outside of external income we can maintain a competitive budget for next 4 years at this level. So that's finances.
Then co ws ambition, this is the question! There seems to be a growing desire from our fan base to be competitive at this level that maybe wasn't there a few years ago. But it's one thing the fans being ambitious, another the chairman and board.
For the club to be a successful vehicle, I'm guessing it doesn't need to be in step 3 and doesn't need an ambitious manager driving it or playing squad. So for me here the question lies.
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Post by merleymagpie on Mar 9, 2022 16:24:45 GMT
Don’t you think James and Gambo can see the issues… Current players must know their REAL commitment… and yes the season and in particular last nights lack of real performance by many players is not what the fans want, not the BOD, not the Managers…. Injuries… well you couldn’t make up how unfortunate we’ve been… You have to give the Managers a chance… yes it looks most likely we’ll go down at the end of the season. And yes… some of the players may leave.. but then it will surely be James and Gambos team… providing funds permit, as promised. Then you can start to evaluate their skills and ability to manage WTFC. But ‘throwing the baby out with the bath water’ is not the answer. I’ll certainly be buying my season ticket for next season and supporting James and Gambo in whatever league status we’re in. Mowerman I hardly think the responses to this thread or anyone at the game asking for a manager who has guided us to relegation is throwing the baby out with the bath water. The management havant just walked through the door, they have been at the club a while, I honestly think all this talk of having their hands tied and not being able to do the job and deserving proper chance is ridiculous. I've said 100 times if they couldn't do the job don't take it or expect the consequences. Luckily for them they have a seemingly unbreakable relationship with the chairman which means irrespective of performance they get rewarded. I'm really struggling to see how anyone doesn't find that odd. Anyway nothing is going to change on that front either with the boards position or the managers output. So it's a senseless argument I'm having with you! But it would be good at the next fans forum for whoever has made this decision to furnish us with some insight and honesty as to how this decision was made and their expectations for the future. |
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Post by wimbornefan on Mar 9, 2022 16:31:09 GMT
Merely, the board have told us they favour stability in the management position. Regardless of what you or I think the board are the ones who decide his future,
Also no of us know what the cost of running the club/finances of the club are like so this league even with the new owners may be financially out of reach,
In the 2 full seasons we’ve had at this level we’ve lost a lot more than we have won so surly we would be better of in a league we can win and compete more often.
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Post by gemma on Mar 9, 2022 16:34:01 GMT
Just in response to a few comments on here;
We did not get promoted by default! We earned the right to be the next team to be asked to be promoted by getting into the play off positions, getting to the final and narrowly losing on penalties. So yes we had a little bit of fortune but we gained the promotion by being the next highest placed team over a whole season.
We did find it tough in the first season and narrowly stayed up, but we didn’t find out until we were into pre season that we had got the promotion and therefore Matty had built a team for the league below. Plus even though we lost a few that season, the team had direction and fight unlike under the team under the current management.
The following season when we had a whole off season and pre season to prepare we finished comfortably mid table under Danny.
And finally can the board afford not to sack James given that we were averaging in the high 380/390 mark for attendances but last night was just 200? Not everybody will just keep turning up come what may as we had originally attracted lots of new fans with the new stadium.
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Post by gemma on Mar 9, 2022 16:38:22 GMT
And yes… some of the players may leave.. but then it will surely be James and Gambos team… providing funds permit, as promised. Then you can start to evaluate their skills and ability to manage WTFC. Strange comment, who’s team do you think it is now then? This is their team, they didn’t come in and adopt this squad, they chose the players, signed them and continue to pick them |
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Post by gemma on Mar 9, 2022 16:40:03 GMT
That’s a shame, maybe he could have come out and apologised for that absolute shambles. Was he asked for an interview Graham?
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fedup
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Post by fedup on Mar 9, 2022 16:43:35 GMT
regardless of what management and league we will find ourselves next season,unless there is a Massive shift in attitudes from every player involved in 1st team squad, it will be irelavant, this starts with managers, and then players.
We have to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and hit the ground running for next season.
The players the management wants to bring in should of been identified already,and the ones to let go be told as soon as season has finished.
There should be 2 week break then straight into pre season. many of the issue this year is fitness, we are nit fit enough most teams are 2 yards sharpen than us.
Real good/hard pre season games lined up now so we are prepared and NO excuses from anyone.
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Post by wimbornefan on Mar 9, 2022 16:51:46 GMT
Do a lot of you think James doesn’t realise the player are not good enough or do you think he doesn’t see that? Do you think he didn’t try for better players and lost out to other clubs because they got better offers,
And Gemma let’s be realistic, it doesn’t matter how well we performed over the season we lost and got promoted by default.
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Post by gemma on Mar 9, 2022 16:56:49 GMT
Do a lot of you think James doesn’t realise the player are not good enough or do you think he doesn’t see that? Do you think he didn’t try for better players and lost out to other clubs because they got better offers, And Gemma let’s be realistic, it doesn’t matter how well we performed over the season we lost and got promoted by default. I think it’s irrelevant whether he thinks the players are good enough or not, as I’ve said in a previous comment some of them have proved at other clubs that they are good enough at this level, the problem is that he doesn’t know how to manage them. And ok we didn’t go up on merit being the losing play off finalist and the next highest placed team? They just pulled our name out of a hat? Again it’s irrelevant, we’ve been in this league now for 3 or 4 seasons and this is the worst side ever put together at this level…. by the current manager. Did James and Gambo come out at the start of the season and predict relegation, no they didn’t! I think they said this is a team going places, and were happy to have attracted players from Eastleigh. So again, they have failed! |
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