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Post by Admin on Jan 18, 2022 21:49:44 GMT
Starting X1 Benfield, Morrison, Arnold, Henry, Young, Mason, Bartlett, Freak J, McWilliams Jamison, Bosma,
Subs : Chugg, Morgan, Bedford, Freak L, Cann
HT 0-1 Mason scored the equaliser on 50 mins but Hamworthy scored the winner on 76
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Post by minstermann on Jan 18, 2022 22:16:06 GMT
Did Hamworthy put out their strongest side ? Still rather embarrassing not to beat a team 2 leagues below us.
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Post by gemma on Jan 18, 2022 22:20:17 GMT
Did Hamworthy put out their strongest side ? Still rather embarrassing not to beat a team 2 leagues below us. Are you surprised though? I mean honestly me and my boys went tonight expecting Hamworthy to win no matter what side we put out. We’ve lost all confidence in this manager and team I’m afraid. I know some will be quick to jump on here and defend them by saying that we made changes, but with the likes of Benfield, Bartlett, Young, Bosma in the team we should be beating Wessex league teams! |
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Post by diddlysquat on Jan 18, 2022 22:33:46 GMT
Beale wasnt involved and I dont think Morgan came on although twitter from both Hamworthy and Wimborne was a little more than useless. Cann did come on near the end - but I bet he was thinking he should have stayed at Hamworthy.
Can things get any worse. Glad to see though that some supporters are still hoping we can avoid relegation. Any body want to buy a timeshare in Tonga ?
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Post by disillusionedmagpie on Jan 18, 2022 22:52:46 GMT
Yes, I think this is the turning point and the last chance saloon for the management team from most fans. We stuck with Stokes and Gambo realising the old board got us into this mess. But it just seems nobody in the hierarcy now is prepared to make a decision about the management and we are dropping like a stone into the Southern League 1 without a murmer. I have never been keen to change Managers too quickly but if there was ever any intent to try and stay up then we should have changed the Manager before Christmas. He is a likeable man but each time he comes out for an interview its like an advert for an undertakers business.
It's been stated on this Forum before that we have an interim Manager who could take over in Matty Holmes. I know he found it stressful as a Manager but he was successful and I realise he is keen to develop other sides of the club, but he is needed to put some umph into the team.
Its quite galling as a supporter for decades to see this club get its first relegation in at least a lifetime, and in fact have we ever been relegated? Very Hard to take when you don't see any fight.
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Post by gemma on Jan 18, 2022 23:01:43 GMT
I’ve been saying this for weeks, and it’s shown that even after some investment and some new players, results haven’t improved, the team isn’t getting any better and keeps making the same mistakes. If we are to have any chance whatsoever of staying up (albeit slim) then we need to change the manager now before it’s too late. Also if things are left as they and we are relegated then enthusiasm is growing thin in my household to renew season tickets for next season if we have to put up with the same management team and therefore performances continuing on as per this season, although we have always supported the team through thick and thin, it’s bloody painful and embarrassing to watch currently.
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Post by gemma on Jan 18, 2022 23:11:43 GMT
“It's been stated on this Forum before that we have an interim Manager who could take over in Matty Holmes. I know he found it stressful as a Manager but he was successful and I realise he is keen to develop other sides of the club, but he is needed to put some umph into the team”.
I think there would be lots of interest to be honest. As you say we have Matty Holmes and Taffy Richardson working in the academy.
The new owners have connections with AFCB so could one of their academy coaches fancy it?
How about Alex Pike coming in to try and keep us up, he certainly has the connections to get some fighting players in.
Weymouth have just changed their management team, I’m not suggesting that Brian Stock would want to to come to this level but his assistant was Louis Langdown the ex Totton manager who would do a great job, qualified coach and sports scientist.
All I’m getting at here is that it’s not a reasonable argument to say that there aren’t options that could improve our chances of staying up. A change needs to happen now!
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Post by jack on Jan 18, 2022 23:43:56 GMT
Good game tonight to watch as a neutral,
I thought Hamworthy played as they normally do, not the best footballing side but worked hard of the ball to win it back, Wimborne played the better football in the game but not necessarily doing the hard work as Hamworthy did.
Goal of the game was definitely Wimborne’s the build up was excellent.
Looking at the posts on this thread, does anyone take not of the line ups? Wimborne had 3 dev lads starting a 37 year old cb, Harry Morgan on the bench who has been the best player I’ve seen in their team this season and curt ended up playing rb.
Gemma, do you know if gambo or stokes have coaching badges? Does Matty Holmes want to be intrim manager if they sacked the manager, have you asked him that?
Does Brian stock want to manage at this level, does he even know any players at this level?
Are you sure it’s what the manage is doing that’s the problem or are a lot of the players still not good enough to play the level they are at? Yeah
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Post by magpiesgraham on Jan 19, 2022 9:30:38 GMT
Here's my report of the game. It should appear on the club's website later today. Attachment Deleted |
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Post by rumandmonkey on Jan 19, 2022 11:41:55 GMT
Correct decision to make changes in my opinion. Crap performance, but we had 3 dev lads and players that haven't made out line up recently out there.
Lacked any fight at all.
Lets see if the gamble pays off come Saturday...
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Post by magpiesgraham on Jan 19, 2022 13:11:18 GMT
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Post by striker on Jan 19, 2022 13:21:48 GMT
Correct decision to make changes in my opinion. Crap performance, but we had 3 dev lads and players that haven't made out line up recently out there. Lacked any fight at all. Lets see if the gamble pays off come Saturday... The only lad from squad was J Freak, Regan has been in 1st team for most of the season. Mcwilliams has been in the squad for many games now. It was not a great performance lacking urgency and any real fight.looks to me the players are going through the motions and happy to pick up thier wages without much care about the results. They need to look at their own games before criticism of others. Playing Southern Premier football they should All be wanting the ball alot more than they currently.some to hide to me I still cannot understand why we only play with 1 up front, it's a thankless task when there is no real pressure coming from the midfield. Would Gambo like to chase long balls and his on flick ons...NO! NO STRIKER WOULD.. Let's try a different system play 2 or 3 up top using our pace of Beale Young bringing Freak on Later on.. We played well for 20 mins in the second half keeping the ball proving they are capable of this type of football...But it must be keptvup and not long hooves just to clear danger. It's not over yet for us but..let's try something different you never know it might work... |
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Post by gemma on Jan 19, 2022 13:55:06 GMT
Hi striker, yes I agree with you. It’s a convenient excuse to say that we lost because we made changes and played a couple of dev squad players.
At the end of the day we had 8 or 9 players out there that are part of our Southern premier league squad and some of the top new signings that have played at an even higher level like Gerard and Dan Bartlett.
They should have been capable of beating a Wessex league team that are 2 divisions lower than us. I see the manager has already used this as the excuse why we lost last night in the local press and said that Saturdays game is the priority, so what happens if we lose Saturday as well? We can’t carry on like this and just be happy to lose week in week out and get relegated without even a fight.
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Post by striker on Jan 19, 2022 14:00:55 GMT
Hi striker, yes I agree with you. It’s a convenient excuse to say that we lost because we made changes and played a couple of dev squad players. At the end of the day we had 8 or 9 players out there that are part of our Southern premier league squad and some of the top new signings that have played at an even higher level like Gerard and Dan Bartlett. They should have been capable of beating a Wessex league team that are 2 divisions lower than us. I see the manager has already used this as the excuse why we lost last night in the local press and said that Saturdays game is the priority, so what happens if we lose Saturday as well? We can’t carry on like this and just be happy to lose week in week out and get relegated without even a fight. Thank you Gemma I know Saturday is a huge game but even IF WE WIN...we are still miles away from staying up. We need to win around 8 games to have a chance and with the mentality of some, I can't see this happening if afraid. All fans require is passion and fight!! |
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Post by merleymagpie on Jan 19, 2022 14:41:40 GMT
Most know my position on management, however I honestly don't believe that last night should be the final nail the coffin, that should have come some week ago. But apart from maybe the kudos of the new ownership brining silverware to a dismal season I don't think given the circumstances there should be much emphasis placed on being knocked out last night.
I was hoping for rotation, actually more than we got because Saturday is bigger. And given the current form and disposition of the squad even full strength it was likely we would lose. So last night wasn't a surprise. The issue will be the legacy of that result and performance on the entire squad for Saturday. It seems there is no limit of caveats and reasons to explain anyway each defeat from supporters of the management and rightly so if that's their beliefs but maybe last night might serve as a wake up call to the board in terms of what our future may look like if a change isn't made.
I see Barnstable have been subject to £1 Million cash injection which means with only 2 from the likes of Frome, Paulton, BMF, Plymouth Parkway, Totton, Sholing, Barnstaple, Melksham all of which have at least comparable budgets to ours, would suggest that getting back up is going to be easily as difficult as it is staying up now.
Factor In the fact, I actually haven't come across anyone at the games who have any confidence that the current manager has displayed anything to suggest he could achieve immediate promotion, would suggest we are, barring a remarkable turnaround, approaching the point where the rubber meets the road.
Having said all of the above, I do maintain given Tivertons incredible demise and the fact they are displaying relegation form I have real confidence we will win on Saturday.
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