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Post by Admin on Nov 16, 2021 22:43:33 GMT
Attendance 439
It was 0-0 at halftime
Full details to follow
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Post by Admin on Nov 16, 2021 22:51:36 GMT
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Post by minstermann on Nov 16, 2021 23:00:55 GMT
A very poor result against a team we needed to get points from. We have now played 3 teams around us recently and got just 2 points out of 9. [ Kings Langley, Merthyr and Dorchester] We play another one this Saturday, Beaconsfield and only 3 points will do.
I'm beginning to despair. I'm wondering if the BoD have accepted relegation already, as that was the impression I got at the Fans Forum. None of our current fans have ever experienced Relegation and its not a nice feeling.
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Post by gemma on Nov 16, 2021 23:37:01 GMT
It was embarrassing to be honest! As the Dorset Echo says it was only thanks to our goalkeeper that we didn’t lose by 6 or 7 and me and the family saw no passion whatsoever from our bench and so we left early as it felt like we were the only ones p***** off with the performance.
We have just 1 win from 14 games!!
We have just 7 possible points from a possible 42 points!!
We have just played 3 teams at the bottom and got just 2 points, one of those thanks to a last minute free kick!!
We are yet to win a game at our new stadium!!
I’ve been calling for a change to the management team for some weeks now, I understand the reluctance as James and Gambo are fantastic guys who have given the club great service and they are clearly working hard but it simply isn’t working and the team they are putting out are not good enough or coached well enough.
If we go down then we will lose all of the new supporters that we have gained since having the new stadium. Come on board of directors, be brave and make a change before we are so far behind in the league that it’s too late
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Post by yogi on Nov 16, 2021 23:45:59 GMT
If we don't get 3 points on Saturday I am afraid to say we are doomed...
We simply haven't got the budget to bring in players that have the skill and experience to be competitive in this league... results and league tables do not lie!!!
From the feedback I received from the Fans Forum the BOD have all but accepted that we currently cannot compete financially in this league and that relegation is almost certain and been accepted... how quickly we bounce back will almost certainly depend on what budget is available next season... I would imagine that to achieve promotion you would require a budget higher than is currently available.
I'm afraid that this (relegation) is what happens when you have inexperienced, knowledgeless individuals in key roles.
As an example of this why have the roles of Commercial Manager and Events Manager only just been created and filled, these positions should have been filled prior to our move to New Cuthbury, we could then of been on the front foot and have been generating capital that could have been put towards this seasons playing budget, creating these roles now appears to be a knee jerk reaction born out of desperation.
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Post by wimbornefan on Nov 16, 2021 23:57:07 GMT
It was embarrassing to be honest! As the Dorset Echo says it was only thanks to our goalkeeper that we didn’t lose by 6 or 7 and me and the family saw no passion whatsoever from our bench and so we left early as it felt like we were the only ones p***** off with the performance. We have just 1 win from 14 games!! We have just 7 possible points from a possible 42 points!! We have just played 3 teams at the bottom and got just 2 points, one of those thanks to a last minute free kick!! We are yet to win a game at our new stadium!! I’ve been calling for a change to the management team for some weeks now, I understand the reluctance as James and Gambo are fantastic guys who have given the club great service and they are clearly working hard but it simply isn’t working and the team they are putting out are not good enough or coached well enough. If we go down then we will lose all of the new supporters that we have gained since having the new stadium. Come on board of directors, be brave and make a change before we are so far behind in the league that it’s too late Agreed tonight was not acceptable, but we had 2 dev lads starting, canny, scorey,chuggy,connal, Jamie,guns all unavailable via injury/suspension, it’s the same team and management that won at Weston on Saturday. As yogi said the board said at the fans forum we don’t have the finances to compete so what would changing the management do, I’ve also heard dorch budget is more than double ours |
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Post by t90ark on Nov 17, 2021 6:51:55 GMT
A change of manager will do nothing to change the fortunes of this football team.
The reality is that with the exception of a handful of players, this side simply is not good enough to compete in this league. The fact goalkeepers are keeping scoreline respectable every game should tell you that. A side that consistantly concedes 20, 30, 40 chances per game is not equiped to compete and any manager will struggle with that.
Besides, with no budget to work with, who would come?
Development players will not get this team out of trouble. As well as they perform in and around their peers, they are not ready for this level.
With the exception of, in no particular order, Bragg, Scorey, Beale, Maybury, Morgan - the others are not good enough at this level either through lack of ability or lack of effort. Although Scott Arnold is past his prime - its a better looking defence with him in it.
I exclude the recent new joiners from this as I haven't seen them play.
I said it on here before - budget is King.
Unfortunately, unless a pot of gold is found quickly, relegation is inevitable.
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Post by unbelievablejeff10 on Nov 17, 2021 7:12:00 GMT
I am afraid to say it but the reality is the big R is a real possibility now.
We only need 1 win in the league and it could change or fortunes but I can't see where the win is coming from, the players don't looklike they care enough.
Let's get to Xmas and review were we are then.
IF we are adrift then let's plan for next season get in the players the want and use the development lads SO THEY ARE READY for a league lower and hit the ground running next season.
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Post by rumandmonkey on Nov 17, 2021 7:48:27 GMT
Well, where do i start with that. I moved several things to be able to make that match, especially after seeing result at Weston Super-Mare and the reports of the positive performance.
That was a shambles and up there with the worst and most gutless team performance i can remember seeing at this level of football.
5/6 of the players are simply not good enough or not playing for the manager. The players from Darrens development side are simply not ready, they may be in the future but not now. Our two centre backs have the pace of a walking football side. Looking at the bench, we've the depth of a kids paddling pool.
I left the game on 75 minutes, i simply could not watch anymore.
What are our tactics?
Is Dan Cann now a coach?
Ben Scorey has been on the bench the last two games, why's he not come on? Is he fit to play?
Any chance at all of any update on the injured players?
Brace yourselves for a record low crowd at New Cuthbury on Saturday. £12 to watch that?
I'm undecided on whether a change of management will help, but management or the board need to develop a backbone and shift on dead wood.
Too many players in that squad that should be nowhere Southern League football. I understand we have to be able to bring players in, but every other side seems to be able to do it? Shift players not good enough on to free up some money?
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Post by wimbornefan on Nov 17, 2021 8:02:04 GMT
Well, where do i start with that. I moved several things to be able to make that match, especially after seeing result at Weston Super-Mare and the reports of the positive performance. That was a shambles and up there with the worst and most gutless team performance i can remember seeing at this level of football. 5/6 of the players are simply not good enough or not playing for the manager. The players from Darrens development side are simply not ready, they may be in the future but not now. Our two centre backs have the pace of a walking football side. Looking at the bench, we've the depth of a kids paddling pool. I left the game on 75 minutes, i simply could not watch anymore. What are our tactics? Is Dan Cann now a coach? Ben Scorey has been on the bench the last two games, why's he not come on? Is he fit to play? Any chance at all of any update on the injured players? Brace yourselves for a record low crowd at New Cuthbury on Saturday. £12 to watch that? I'm undecided on whether a change of management will help, but management or the board need to develop a backbone and shift on dead wood. Too many players in that squad that should be nowhere Southern League football. I understand we have to be able to bring players in, but every other side seems to be able to do it? Shift players not good enough on to free up some money? I like you were very happy by the sounds of it after the Weston game, and then last nights performance wasn’t good enough as everyone has mentioned. I didn’t attend the forum but if you listen to what people have said about it and what’s been put on here, we’re about £1200/£1500 a week down on most teams budgets, I’m not sure getting rid of players and bringing others in from lower leagues (that’s what it sounds like we can afford) will make any difference. Players injuries is a issue along with suspensions |
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Post by rumandmonkey on Nov 17, 2021 8:29:15 GMT
You raise a very good point. Look at the players unavailable, it's almost half of what would be a starting 11.
But on the other hand, games are running out to stay in this division. Every time a side like that is put out is one less game we have to save this club from relegation.
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Post by diddlysquat on Nov 17, 2021 8:34:58 GMT
At this level budget is 50% of the battle. Unfortunately we are operating at Step 3 with a step 5 budget. Although Graham Bell is financing the 3G pitch, we do not have a benefactor who is prepared to pour money into the club. You therefore have to live within your means. Do we want to get into the same precarious position when Paula Henley came into the club and found it was £100k in debt ?
The other 50% is made up of how dynamic the BoD is and how the team is managed and what players you have available. No one who attended the Fans Forum can doubt Stokoe and Gamble's commitment. However they have had to put together a team of 'journeymen' with only Curtis Young and Arnie staying on from previous seasons. You certainly need continuity to build up a team capable of doing well. Having said that it is a mystery how well they can do in one off cup games and yet be so below par in the League.
It is surprising that the Saturday attendances are still at a reasonable level considering our League position. How long supporters will put up with our dire home form is another matter.
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Post by t90ark on Nov 17, 2021 8:35:15 GMT
Those players were available before injuries and suspensions - results and performances were the same.
They weren't good enough then, they won't be when they come back.
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Post by wimbornefan on Nov 17, 2021 8:41:53 GMT
At this level budget is 50% of the battle. Unfortunately we are operating at Step 3 with a step 5 budget. Although Graham Bell is financing the 3G pitch, we do not have a benefactor who is prepared to pour money into the club. You therefore have to live within your means. Do we want to get into the same precarious position when Paula Henley came into the club and found it was £100k in debt ? The other 50% is made up of how dynamic the BoD is and how the team is managed and what players you have available. No one who attended the Fans Forum can doubt Stokoe and Gamble's commitment. However they have had to put together a team of 'journeymen' with only Curtis Young and Arnie staying on from previous seasons. You certainly need continuity to build up a team capable of doing well. Having said that it is a mystery how well they can do in one off cup games and yet be so below par in the League. It is surprising that the Saturday attendances are still at a reasonable level considering our League position. How long supporters will put up with our dire home form is another matter. All great points here, I’m sure the board would be happy for you to top the the budget t90ark each week to make the club more competitive |
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Post by t90ark on Nov 17, 2021 8:44:17 GMT
What are you having a pop at me for? I didn't set the budget.
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